40+4, Art is not enough! Not Enough! or the Making of the Arts in Shanghai (‘80’s-2008). Artists interviews

The multimedia installation draws on interviews made by the curator with forty artists in Shanghai, who consider questions about the role of the artist, their relationship with the external world, the social consequences of their work and the international market’s effect on traditional modes of artistic production.. This presentation offers a dynamic anthropological insight into the urban panorama of modern Shanghai.

 

Introduction

What the situation of Shanghai artistic development, what are the positions of artists in all that? How do artists perceive themselves in this fast changing context and art economy? We put together a series of questions, personal, public, irreverent and naïve, to understand what is going on in the mind of the artists, who are the pillar stones of the contemporary art scene in Shanghai, especially in the wake of an alienating globalization and commercialization? After 10 years in the Shanghai art scene, Davide Quadrio embarked on an interview project, with artists from all streams of art-making, not only the avant-garde, but also the traditional, official or academic scene, presenting a cross section of the art scene in Shanghai. A number of the select artists are museum directors, and others are teachers.

This project adopted a sort of sociological approach and undertook a research to discover whether this uneasiness was deep-rooted in or shared by Shanghai artists.

And so, together with Lothar Spree, Zhu Xiaowen, and Xu Jie – the last of whom in the role of professional interviewer – 40+4 probed the relationship between the artists, their work, and the evolution of contemporary art in Shanghai over the last two decades. : Forty artists and the four people got involved in the research project, for a total of forty-four, the number which, in Chinese, sounds like the translation of “double death, “ which recalls a quite common tongue twister in the language (13). Indeed, all the connotations of the number forty-four seemed to us to be ironically appropriate for defining the heart and soul of our project.

All the 40 artists interviewed  were asked the same questions, each of which was printed on a flashcard, and there were twenty-seven cards in all, divided into four colors, along with a set bearing famous quotations about art made by historical figures. The interview got underway with four general and autobiographical questions about the artist (grey cards), and moved on to questions that were philosophical or psychological (blue cards), followed by questions that were of a political or sociological nature (green cards), and winding up with questions about art as a product (red cards). The conversation ended with the artist choosing one last card from the pack containing dozens of quotations (light green cards) by various personalities, concerning the meaning of art. The artist was asked to comment on the card he or she had drawn out loud, and propose a personalized version of the quote if he or she so desired. The interview/conversation lasted an average of 30 to 45 minutes, and occasionally a whole hour.

A painstaking editing process resulted in a composition in which the image flicker at a hypnotic pace that perfectly reflects the view of the contemporary art and culture scene in Shanghai: its fragmentation and continuous becoming. By way of this “forced” conversation, the artists’ narratives attempt an analysis of the history of contemporary art from the nineteen-eighties to the present, as they reflect on the condition of the urban artist, the ties existing between contemporary Chinese art and its past, as well as in relations to the world history of art; and the art market and the state of art criticism in China. By means of a presentation designed to unfold on four screens, the film’s narrative presents not only the individual artists, but also the collective point of view of the forty subjects interviewed: a vision of artistic Shanghai that isn’t “me, myself, and I.”

The presentation of this project for eArt represents an open dialogue of the artistic community to the city- a vis a vis discourse that will bring reflections, happiness and frustration, critical analyses of the cultural development of the city in the last 15 years or so.
For this occasion, 40+4 is shown in two different format: the 4 screens format are displayed on 4 screens in the Xujiahui Park while a new edited version created ad hoc for the festival is presented on the LED screens on the commercial buildings that surround Xujiahui Square.

Artists Interviewed include: Shen Fan, Zhang Enli, Shi Yong, Yu Youhan, Zhou Tiehai, Huang Yuanqing, Xu Zhen, Huang Kui, Yang Fudong, Lu Chunsheng, Liang Yue, Liu Jianhua, Li Shan, Zhang Ding, Tang Maohong, Wang Xingwei, Song Tao, Lao Jin Feng, Hu Jieming, Xiang Liqing, Yang Zhenzhong, Ding Yi, Luo Yongjin, Qiu Anxiong, Xu Longbao, Wang Tiande, Zhu Julan , Song Haidong , Gu Wenda, Li Xiangyang, Gong Yan , Li Lei, Liu Dahong, Wang Nanming , Yu Xiaofu , Zhang Peicheng , Xia Haicun , Qiu Dexiu , Yang Hui

A view of 40+4, opening night in the Final Cut project, eArt festival, 18 October 2008, Shanghai.

40 Questions:

Personal

1. Is an artist powerful? Do you like to be so?
2. Is an artist corruptible? Are you corruptible?
3. Have you ever been doubtful of you being an artist?
4. How do you deal with critics and criticism of your work?
5. Do you think that people should understand your art?
6. Do you find it necessary that a creative/artistic person have a belief?
7. Have you anything to say about art and fear?
8. What do you believe in?
9. During your career, when did you feel special, different, frustrated-and why?

Public
1. Does the artist have to take responsibility for the society he lives in?
2. Is “Decency” of concern for an artist?
3. How do you see the relationship between art and ethics?
4. How would you react, if a government agency/institution would commission you to produce a specific work of art for them?
5. What is the relationship between art and power?
6. What is the relationship between art and culture?
7. What and how – do you think – the relationship between Art and Politics should be?
8. Does art open conflicts? Should it do so?
9. What is the relationship between Art History and Ideology History? Is art History equivalent to Ideology History?
10. Do you still keep reading now? Is reading important for an artist?

11. How did people around you react to you calling yourself an artist?
12. What is the most important contribution of art to social life/society?
13. Do you feel to be a responsible factor in a social and cultural context? How?

Market
1. How do you arrive at a price for your art?
2. Do you like to share your money with your gallerist?
3. Is a curator a facilitator or an artist-user?
4. Is your art a product?
5. After you sold your art, do you miss it? Do you know where it is? Always?
6. Will you like to use your money to support young artists? Just to sponsor them?
7. Is art a mass product? Should it be?
8. Luxury and art, art and luxury? What do you think about this relationship
9. How do you believe the relationship with gallerists and artists should be?

Each flash-card corresponds to one card, two sets are produced one in English and one in Chinese.

To listen to Hu Zi’s sound-scape please click here

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Credits

Concept by Davide Quadrio and Lothar Spree
Interviews by Davide Quadrio and Xu Jie
Questions by: Lothar Spree, Davide Quadrio, Zhu Xiaowen, Huang Kui, Li Xuehui, Zhang Enli, Xu Jie.
Flash-cards designed by Huang Kui
Transcription of interviews: Chinese – English: Flora Yu , Zhu Xiaowen, Alexia Dehaene
Chinese- Italian: Davide Quadrio, Stephanie Chauvel
Captions: Liu Bailu
Camera: Lothar Spree and Zhu Xiaowen
Film and Entrance Clip’s editing: Zhu Xiaowen
Entrance Clip’s soundtrack: Hu Zi, “Mars rat”, Srammer, 2.30 min. 2007 by Hu Zi, Beijing
Editing Assistants: Shen Jiamin and Gao Yue
Post Production: Zhu Xiaowen and Dirk Schulz
After effect animation: Dirk Schulz
Installation technical support in China: Alexander Brandt and Dirk Schulz
Installation design: Nunzia Carbone, Dedo, Shanghai
Soundscape: Composer: Hu Zi
Musicologist: Francesca Tarocco
We would like to thanks for the support all the artists:
Ding Yi, Gong Yan , Gu Wenda, Hu Jieming, Huang Kui, Huang Yuanqing, Lao Jinfeng, Li Lei, Li Shan, Li Xiangyang, Liang Yue, Liu Dahong, Liu Jianhua, Lu Chunsheng, Luo Yongjin, Qiu Deshu, Qu Anxiong, Shen Fan, Shi Yong, Song Haidong, Song Tao, Tang Maohong, Wang Nanming, Wang Tiande, Wang Xingwei, Xiang Liqing, Xu Zhen, Xulongbao, Yang Fudong, Yang Hui, Yang Zhenzhong, Yu Xiaofu , Yu Youhan, Zhang Da, Zhang Ding, Zhang Enli, Zhang Haitian, Zhang Peicheng, Zhou Tiehai, Zhu Julan and Defne Ayas